These are my sized down (size 8) Out & About Pants I picked up yesterday. Slightly more fitted, but the TTS was too big in the waist and since I'm aggressively working on losing weight I think they will be fine in a few weeks. I really love these pants so I'm not surprised they sold out online so quickly. They remind me of J Brand Scuba Jeans. I rolled the cuffs on these about 4 times here but I think it looks best rolled just once or twice.